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Ovulation at cd4 is it possible??

Hello lovely ladies I'm very confused, I've been ttc for well over 15 mths I've had a missed m/c and a bfp which didn't last long as af started 4 days later I am 45 yrs old and I think I'm peri menopausal so I tried all sorts to try and help me get pregnant nothing seemed to work, anyway last few months I've been using soy isoflavones as clomid at the start of my cycles and progesterone cream after O which helped with regulating my luteal phase as my cycles were only lasting 17-18 days, last cycle I went 36 days(long for me) and ovulated on day 21 (usually O on cd10-14) and I hadn't used soy that cycle I started af finally on 18/03/18 and I'm now on cd5 I did an opk on Tues cd3 and it was positive thought I'd do one as maybe I O during af my temps have also verified ovulation as yesterday with a big dip and rise, my point is.. Is that possible? Also I've been using soy since cd1 last day today should I take the last days dose or leave it and surely its to soon to start progesterone cream?? I'll share a pic of my FF chart, has this happened to anybody else before?? If so please tell me your story thanks.. Baby dust xx

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Take ur last dose, u didn't O. When taking anything that alters ur hormones, it's bound to affect temps. Typically, temps run a bit higher when u take things like soy or clomid. U also want to avoid using opk's until 3 days after ur last dose, specifically becuz they cause false positives. Keep temping and take that last dose. One high temp is not confirmation, u will feel the ovarian activity soon...give it time!

What dose are u taking?


6 years ago


Hello thanks for your response, I did alot of research on soy before I started it as I'm not a doctor or specialist and it's hard for me to see a proper specialist so I did this of my own back but I take first two days 80mg, 3rd day 120mg, 4th 160mg and today's I was going to take 200mg this has never happened to me before that's why I'm confused I'm on cd5 started soy cd1 had a 3-4 day af and just posted a pic of my latest opk these ones are sensitive 20MiU..x

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I know its confusing and probably very overwhelming, but u need to stop taking opk's. They aren't true positives, Clomid does the same thing, this is why u wanna start them 3 days after ur last dose. It's totally ur call as to what u wanna do, obvs, but I would take the last dose and let the cycle play out. Ur only going off one temp and a hormone surge u obtained while supplementing with a hormone altering supplement. Just my opinion.
Lemme know if u want help with days and dosing. I've used more soy than any normal human should.
Good luck! =))


6 years ago


I've tried most days eg 1-5 2-6,3-7 tried all 3 of those but never exceeded 200mg as read not to and also read to start off with the most minimal dose, always with a positive opk on cd9-11 well until last cycle that was first messed up cycle for ages I didn't take soy that cycle thought I'd give my body a rest lol and now this confusion but I'll take the soy and carry on as normal we bd on Tues, weds and today just in case :) x

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Hello, my temp took a huge dip it's not usual for me for this to happen on cd6 I did take 200mg soy last night final day taking it and first time ever taking 200mg of it, I am listening to you hun I've stopped using opk for now here's my chart.. X

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I had adjusted the temp yesterday from 36.46c to 36.57c as I did it an hr earlier than usual but now I've put it back as its original temp I don't like using bbt adjust really xx

6 years ago • Post starter


Yeah, def avoid adjusting temps. Just make note of the time difference and anything else that could affect temps. If u wake too early or late then it's better to omit the temp altogether.
Just saw ur opk...ur not doing so well at not testing. Lol! Save urself the frustration and money and test starting cd9 am. The dip is drastic but u did take a large dose lastnite. Try not to overanalyze individual temps, ur bd'ing so ur not gonna miss the window...relax and enjoy the process before u have to start stressing about the tww.


6 years ago


Morning, I'm sorry I can't resist using any test if there in my draw but to also help to see what's going on with me, I've woken up to feeling very bad indigestion I've had very wet cm, feeling horny, headache, gassy, temp still low for now, nausea, since yesterday or day before I've been having right side ovary pains usually i never feel nothing on my right side I'm cd7 today, 2nd day since stopping soy, I won't lie I will most probably use opk until cd16 just to see what happens with it and temps aswell I'm trying to chill with it all, just wished I knew my own body a bit better I've learned alot in the 16mth ttc but still never figured my own body out properly yet lol thanks for your advice xx

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Hello again, I'm on cd9 today no positive opk.. Yet, and not many symptoms these last couple of days my temps still low, ultra low for me at least, I'm thinking maybe I got the +opk yesterday as I was working all day and only took the 11am test it was close but not dark enough I drank tons of water after that test and made the afternoon test pure negative which I took late at 4pm instead of 2pm, I had to take co-codamol for toothache last night hope that wouldn't alter my O this cycle here are my images..

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And opk... The opk few days ago were darker than these lol hope to get a concrete answer of when I'm ovulating soon it's nice to know where you stand in your cycle but with such low temps that proves to me I've not ovulated yet..

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