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Which cycle day did you take the first test? Do you know around which day you usually o?

Started from day 6 as have really weird cycles and got the near positive on day 7. The last cycle was only 11 days yet the one before was 34 days long so not to sure when I'm meant to

Ah well then there's hope yet!! Keep testing. Do you bbt? That may help you out along with opks and checking you cp and cm. if one isn't telling you you're about to drop the egg, surely one of the others will (unless you happen to not ovulate).

Yeah hope so. No i don't. I get up so much in the night with my 2 year so wouldn't be able to successfully

I have random waking times (naturally) anywhere from 1:30-5am. And I bbt anyway. My chart looked wacky and I was worried I would see a shift, but I did. I also chart with FF and they only believed 4 of my temps this cycle. But I was right with my o day before the confirmed with 3 days spiked temp. It may work for you to take at the same time, or to take after the most sleep. I think my chart is visible if you want to take a peek.

I might have to start so I can work my cycle out

Good luck, I hope you see that surge soon :-)

Thanks