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To me, that sounds like u didnt ovulate. The cervix isnt as reliable as cm but with the two of them still being in an ovulatory state, I would assume u didnt O the first time. Its hard to say without seeing temps. Do u have a rough idea as to where ur temps sit pre-O vs post-O? U could try taking a temp for the next morning or two and get an idea where ur at that way. Obvs it wont be 100% but it would help somewhat.

Did you get a positive on an OPK at all or any ferning using a ferning microscope? For me, that is the only way I can be sure. I feel like my symptoms change every time. If you haven't used any OPKs yet, I would and then just keep doing them until you get a definite negative. We got preggo after third cycle shipped from a known donor using AI (my hubby has no swimmers) but then had an early mis. (I am 41 and have possible scarring on my uterus from a loss after a sexual assault about six years ago with an ex). It worked beautifully for us to track using both of those and a calendar for marking days. My CM is so changeable from cycle to cycle, that it does not seem to be always accurate.

I am thinking I didn't ovulate, which is frustrating as hell since this is the first month me and my husband have been on the same page and really all for having lots of BDing time. I stopped opks and temps because it was just stressing me out way too much which defeats the purpose if im too stressed to get pregnant. I was always VERY fertile and VERY regular my entire life until I started TTC. I usually have very dramatic temp jumps post O. I am usually 97.3 f before O and I jump up past 98.0 f after O. I *feel* like I am still pretty cool and my temp last night was a measly 96.8f. Well, my period should come next tuesday...should I bd again just in case or is there no chance because the luteal phase would be too short even if I did ovulate now?

If u havent ovulated yet, then dont expect ur period when it normally would come for a cd15 or 16 O. Check ur temp in the am, if its up where it should be post-O, then assume it happened on cd15 or whichever day u choose...but if its still low (ignore the night temp, u know better!!) then continue bd'ing. Ur LP will only ever change +/- 1-2 days, so if its normally say, 14 days, then that wont vary too much, regardless if u O cd15 or cd57. The only thing that changes with a great degree is the overall length of the cycle. Know what I mean?

Youre right, I knew the night temp was just a goof. I have never had this happen before. I was regular as a clock with 28 day cycles until I started TTC and now they have been anywhere from 26-30 days for the past 5 months. I have checked my cervix and fluid every one of the past 5 months and it would always open before O and during, an then close back up for a while, then open about 3 days before AF arrived. this is just so weird and new to me to have an open cervix cd 22 and so much EWCM. We are going to bd sometime today just in case, last time we did it was day before yesterday. At least we have been doing it rather consistently since the fertile fluid started. I will take a temp tomorrow and the next day, see how it goes. Lots of cramps today.